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-----Original
Message-----
From:
Meine van Noordwijk [mailto:m.van-noordwijk@cgiar.org]
Sent:
Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:32 AM
To:
'Tomich, Tom (ICRAF)'
Subject:
FW: Please help (fwd)
Hi
Tom trying hard to get a feasible outline... meine
-----Original
Message-----
From:
Meine van Noordwijk Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:23 PM
To:
'Jeffrey E Richey'
Subject:
RE: Please help (fwd)
Jeff
In the next couple of hours I'll send you a draft lay-out for the
overall activity 2 report -- I'm trying to fit it into a logical
story line... Louis' scenarios involve changes in overall forest
cover as well as changes in spatial pattern -- we expect changes in
the amount of irrigated rice, so we might expect some hydrological
impacts... Meine
-----Original
Message-----
From:
Jeffrey E Richey [mailto:jrichey@u.washington.edu
]
Sent:
Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:51 PM
To:
m.van-noordwijk@cgiar.org
Subject:
Re: Please help (fwd)
Meine
- That said, I have no idea what Louis is up to, and how it possibly
relates to or otherwise could be incorporated in our immedaite
efforts. On the UW side, we will generate "sufficient"
scenarios to explore the overall issues of possible landuse change
consequences. And we are waking up to the importance of irrigation
on overall water balance. With regard to the overall Activity 2
report, do you see that work is progressing adequately? More
specifically, what do you/will you need from us to get the immediate
job done? Jeff
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Forwarded message ----------
Date:
Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:18:26 +0700
From:
David Thomas
To:
Meine van Noordwijk
Cc: Porranee Rattanaviwatpong
, Jeffrey E Richey
, Saipim
, Pornwilai Saipothong
Subject:
Re: Please help
Dear
Meine, This is just a note to let you know that Louis Lebel and his
team have been working 'flat-out' trying to get the scenarios
finished. Given the last-minute 'glitches' that always happen (which
seem especially inevitable when rushing under a deadline), they now
expect to have land use layers for one, if not all four, scenarios
finished by tomorrow. We will forward that input to you as soon as
we receive it in the office. They plan to finish the text write-up
this weekend. Of course, we all understand that this is a first cut
at all this, but from what we've seen elsewhere, I remain optimistic
that this will be an important first step in improving the way
scenario work has been conducted so far in this region. Pornwilai
and I have also discussed some of the last minute data items needed
by Porranee, and she should send that info off soon. Hope all is
going well on your end -- It should be interesting when we can get a
chance to stand back an look at the fruits of all this effort (after
the dust settles enough to see it). Cheers, David
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Original Message -----
From:
"Meine van Noordwijk"
To:
"David Thomas"
Sent:
Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:44 AM
Subject:
RE: Please help
Thanks
-- I'd thought that we were further along with the Mae Chaem
application than we actually are, hope we can still 'squeeze' it --
will you be around next week for comments on draft report text on
Mae Chaem? Any signs of life from Louis? Yesterday we had a simple
'farewell' event with Ann -- ideas for the Philippines follow up are
taking shape, we'll look for a way to strenghten the UPLB/national
level connections without an IRS in place... best regards
Meine
-----Original
Message-----
From:
David Thomas [mailto:Thomas2@loxinfo.co.th
]
Sent:
Friday, November 14, 2003 3:59 PM
To:
Meine van Noordwijk
Cc:
Saipim; Pornwilai Saipothong; SureepornS@icraf-cm.org
;AnatikaR@icraf-cm.org; Pornwilai (yahoo); Atiek Widayati; Farida; 'Betha
Lusiana'; Pramualpis Kanthatham (cgiar)
Subject:
Re: Please help
Dear
Meine,
Just
back from Luang Prabang.
The
CD is on its way with Maew and Pong. Good Luck!
David
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Original Message -----
From:
"Saipim" <SaipimC@icraf-cm.org>
To:
"David Thomas" <thomas2@loxinfo.co.th>
Sent:
Friday, November 14, 2003 2:28 PM
Subject:
(Meine)Fw: Please help
fyi.
Jeap is working on this kha
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Original Message -----
From:
"Meine van Noordwijk" <m.van-noordwijk@cgiar.org>
To:
"Saipothong, Pornwilai (ICRAF)" <P.Saipothong@cgiar.org>;
"Pramualpis Kanthatham" <p.kanthatham@cgiar.org
>; "Saipim Pim Channuan"
<s.channuan@cgiar.org
>
Cc:
<SureepornS@icraf-cm.org
>; <AnatikaR@icraf-cm.org
>; <pwilai_s@yahoo.com>; "Atiek Widayati" <a.widayati@cgiar.org>;
"David
Thomas"
<d.thomas@cgiar.org
>; "Farida" <farida@cgiar.org
>; "Betha Lusiana" <b.lusiana@cgiar.org>
Sent:
Friday, November 14, 2003 2:18 PM
Subject:
Please help
Dear
Khun Pong, Ngeaw, Jiep, Saipim
Hoping
to still catch you in time...
Looking
with Atiek at the message sent we realize that it would be
best
if we have a copy of the Maew Chaem DEM here and work directly from
it
(Desi
needs elevation for the SpatRain, we may use a slightly different
way
of
defining subcatchments...).
Can
Jiep copy it on a CD and send it along with Maew and Khun Pong??
Sorry
toi be such iun a rush, but I thoughht we had sorted this all out
some time to go and we now have only few days left to finish the
report
by
December 1...
Meine
PS
our time schedule is:
monday
- Atiek DEM, distcance, subcatchments
tuesday/wednesday
- Desi Spatrain
thursday=>
- Farida (in Bukitting) Genriver & graphs...
saturday
==> Meine report.....
-----Original
Message-----
From:
pornwilai [mailto:p.saipothong@cgiar.org]
Sent:
Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:21 PM
To:
Atiek Widayati
Cc:
'Farida'; SureepornS@icraf-cm.org; AnatikaR@icraf-cm.org;pwilai_s@yahoo.com
Subject:
Re: Please help -- BNPP final runs
Dear
Atiek and Ai,
Here
we are! the sub-watersheds for Mae Chaem watershed and the
centroids
for the GenRiver. The shape files in the attachment includes:
(1)
STREAM.shp is the streamlines, (2) NEWSUB4 and (3) NEWSUB5.shp are
the
sub-watershed files that you select as you like and the centroid in
different
shape files (but almost the same name (NEWSUB4_CENTROID,
NEWSUB5_CENTROID).
(3)
MCWSH is the Mae Chaem watershed as a whole.
We
had divided it into 6 to 9 sub-watersheds only because the size of
our biggest sub-watershed in our area is about that size (almost 700
km2).
Hope
it can be used but don't hesitate to tell me if you have any
questions.
I'm
in Khon Kaen province, Northeastern of Thailand and will go back to
the office next week.
Cheers,
Ngaew
Atiek
Widayati writes:
Hi
Ngaew,
I
am not familiar with 'makeroute' or 'measureroute' algorithm in
ArcGIS, we havent even opened the software;-). probably it's the
same
with
flowlength and stream length in hydro? The tricky thing about
Genriver input is it asks for 'routing distance' from 'centroid' of
the subcatchment to the 'outlet of the whole catchment'. I'm
not sure how to do it in ArcGIS. Farida did it the way she explained
in her email below.
If
it hasnt been figured out yet there (and sorry I cant help much),
but since the modelling team needs it asap, I guess my immediate
solution
is:
just
create subcatchments from Mae Chaem DEM ( or I think you already
have it ? ), save it into .shp. As much as possible it's better if
the subcatchment centroid is included in the attribute table (during
generation, if you generate from DEM). Send it to us along with
river network (shp too).
Then
we will just calculate the routing distance manually in Bogor.
I
know it's not a sexy solution, but for 1-2 days time frame that's
what I can think of.
Hope
all is well with you and youre enjoying your time out there!
Looking
fwd to your response,
Atiek
-----Original
Message-----
From:
Farida [mailto:farida@cgiar.org]
Sent:
Monday, November 10, 2003 4:38 PM
To:
Saipothong, Pornwilai (ICRAF)
Cc:
Atiek Widayati; SureepornS@icraf-cm.org
Subject:
RE: Please help -- BNPP final runs
Importance:
High
Dear
Ngaew,
I
am sorry to rush you with this routing distance problem.
I
will try to explain about how we derive the routing distance from
DEM (Mba' Atiek, please correct and add my information).
1.
To be used in GenRiver, we need to delinate from DEM several sub
catchments with not so much different in size (Currently GenRiver
can
have 20 subcatchments)eg. SUmberjaya area is about 400 km2, we
defined it as 15 subcathments.
2.
Overlay of subcatchment with river network. Calculate manually
(using ruler in ArcInfo) from the center of each subcatchment
following
the
main river network to the catcthment outlet.
3.
To be able to run the GenRiver correctly, we also need the area of
each subcathment in km.
I
hope it will help you. Once again sorry to ask these data in rush
since BNPP dateline is December 1.
Thank
you very much for your assistance. Regards,- ai -
-----Original
Message-----
From:
pornwilai [mailto:p.saipothong@cgiar.org]
Sent:
Monday, November 10, 2003 2:28 PM
To:
Meine van Noordwijk
Cc:
David Thomas; Farida; Atiek Widayati; SureepornS@icraf-cm.org
Subject:
Re: Please help -- BNPP final runs
Dear
Khun Meine,
We
(Nong and I) are in Khon Kaen, Northeast Thailand now.
Regarding
the routing distance, Nong suggest that (may be) we can do
that by using 'measureroute' or 'makeroute' command from our ArcGIS
software
and Jeab is working on that . I wonder how Atiek did it by DEM?
Could you please explain it in more detail, Atiek?
We
will try to make it done very soon.
Best
regards,
Ngaew
Meine
van Noordwijk writes:
Dear
Ngeaw
In
going through the latest set of runs of GenRiver for the BNPP report
(we have to hand it in by December 1 -- so with the upcoming El
Fitiri
hoilidays that basically means we have only 1 week left...), we
realize that we don't have the routing distances for the various
subcatchments
in Mae Chaem -- we need that quickly, the precision doesnt mater too
much.... Atiek
derived
the distances for S Jaya from the DEM and a manual process, maybe
she can help doing it here if you don't have time (with the upcoming
workshop),
but please get us something soon....
Thanks!
Meine |
